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pledge of Allegiance - under G-d
Published by: cfz 2009-01-07
  • What are some reasons why the words "under G-d" should be removed from the pledge, and what are some reasons why they should not be removed?


  • Nukethepandas, The following article describes how the 9th Circuit Court ruled that the current incarnation of the Pledge fails three different tests created by the courts to decide if The Pledge was constitutional under the Establishment Clause. The tests are (a) the Lemon Test, (b) the Endorsement Test, and (c) the Coersion Test: [Summary of 9th circuit ruling on The Pledge] http://www.nassp.org/services/legal_pledgeall.html Note that the 9th Circuit’s ruling only applies to those states within the circuit. These states are also specified in the article. Basically, these tests combine in this case to mean that because “under God” was added in 1954 as a response to atheist communism, because public school teachers are required to use these words in a government-supported public school classroom, and because students may not realize they have the right to refuse, the recitation of those words in public schools should not be permitted. Those who disagree seem to feel that the recitation of the pledge is simply “ceremonial deism” which is simply a fancy way of saying that we say it by rote without actually thinking about the meaning. A group called Keep The Pledge explains its view here: http://www.keepthepledge.com/editorials.php Keep the pledge confirms the 1954 origin of the words “under God” in their page about the history of the pledge: http://www.keepthepledge.com/history.php You can read the entire ruling (which includes the judge’s reasoning) here. Note that this also includes a partial dissent from one of the judges who heard the case: http://www.ca9.uscourts.gov/ca9/newopinions.nsf/FE05EEE79C2A97B688256BE3007FEE32/$file/0016423.pdf?openelement If you’d like to read more about this, I’d recommend clicking on the following Google search where you’ll find much more information about this rather heated topic of debate: [Google search: court + “pledge of allegiance”] ://www.google.com/search?as_q=court&num=100&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&btnG=Google+Search&as_epq=pledge+of+allegiance&as_oq=&as_eq=&lr=&as_ft=i&as_filetype=&as_qdr=all&as_occt=any&as_dt=i&as_sitesearch=&safe=images I hope this provides the information you’re looking for. Feel free to ask for clarification if needed. /ephraim
  • A win-win compromise on the wording of the Pledge of Allegiance::
    The Pledge of Allegiance debate has been structured by the legal system, media, say "under Adoshem" or use some other name or title associated with G-d.
    http://www.religioustolerance.org/natpled7.htm
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    EDITORIAL: Oversensitive Madison ruling against the Pledge of ::
    Their first objection is the referencing of G-d in the pledge. How could we dare let children say a line such as “one nation, under G-d” in a public school?
    http://www.lawrentian.com/news/2001/10/26/OpinionsEditorials/Editorial.Oversensitive.Madison.Ruling.Against.The.Pledge.Of.Allegiance.Eventual-132305.shtml
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    Pledge of Allegiance Removed? - The Oregon Catalyst::
    Jun 11, 2008 The Pledge of Allegiance was written in 1892 by Francis Bellamy . You do not wan to say under Gd in the pledge then don't just MOVE ON!
    http://www.oregoncatalyst.com/index.php?/archives/1498-Pledge-of-Allegiance-Removed.html
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