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Psychosomatic Pain Empathy

Published by: jane 2009-01-07

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    A strange thing happens to me. When someone, without my expecting it, shows me or tells me about a physical wound or pain they have suffered (a burn, a cut or scrape, a fall, an unwelcome piercing), something in my pelvis/gut tightens involuntarily and I feel a momentary pang of pain. It releases immediately. It's almost like being tickled: it only happens when I'm not expecting it. I have no problems with the sight of blood or tending wounds or looking at other gross stuff when I'm expecting to do that. It has to be psychosomatic. I'm just wondering whether there's a name for it and whether it's been described in scientific or medical literature anywhere.


  • I'm definitely not talking about any "psycic" experience, and, though those articles are interesting, what I feel is my own pain, not someone else's. What I am feeling is also a physical sensation in my body, rather than just a perception of pain. I think what I experience must be akin to people who feel faint or weak at the sight of blood. Is there a name for that effect in psychology or medicine?


  • glamazares... After considerable research, I have come across terms which fit the phenomena you describe. You have clarified that you are not experiencing Sympathy Pain, based on an Empathetic response to another's pain. You have also noted that you are not affected by the sight of blood or wounds when you are expecting to encounter them. By the way, the term for the condition of those who faint at the sight of blood is Syncope, or Vasovagal Syncope, which is a medical term for fainting, or swooning, from the National Center for Emergency Medicine Informatics site: http://www.ncemi.org/cse/cse0101.htm The term for a reaction to an unexpected stimulus is a Startle Reflex, which, in and of itself, is normal. However, an increase in this sensitivity can be a sign of stress and burnout, as listed among the symptoms of these conditions in this very comprehensive page on the subject by Jerome Murray, Ph.D., on BetterYou.com: "Tendency to become easily startled by inconsequential stimuli." Much more on the page: http://www.betteryou.com/symptoms.htm But the Startle Reflex alone does not describe the unpleasant reaction you experience. This is described by the term Disgust Sensitivity. This is a relatively new area of study, but there is a fair volume of work on the subject. Disgust, in and of itself, is a survival mechanism, as noted in this article titled: 'Disgust is good for you, shows study', on the New Scientist website: "'Disgust is a form of evasive action to protect us against signs of threat, such as disease,' says Val Curtis, who led the research. 'Women need to have a higher level of sensitivity to infection or disease, because they are the main carers of infants. And, as reproductive ability declines with age, so does disgust.'" http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99994563 The study of Disgust Sensitivity has taken the emotion of disgust to new levels of scientific inquiry, which is having an impact on the understanding of phobias and mental illnesses like Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder, with the realization that fear is not the only, or even necessarily the predominant emotion of these conditions. An excellent overview of this topic is an article on MindPub.com, entitled 'Disgust and Fear are Closely Related', by Vijai P. Sharma, Ph.D: "...in fear, our heart rate, breathing rate, blood pressure and skin temperature go up, saliva dries up, muscles tense up along with other physical changes that help us in the action of running. But in disgust, the opposite happens. For example, instead of an increase, heart rate, blood pressure and skin temperature register a decrease. Saliva, instead of drying up, is over produced." [...] "In the mental health field, excessive fear for such things as blood, injection, injury, spiders, insects, etc. is referred to as "specific phobias." Phobia is another name for fear. However, phobia is not an accurate term for this condition. A more accurate term, at least in the majority of cases, may be disgust of such things as blood, injection, injury, insects, etc." Much more on the page: http://www.mindpub.com/art365.htm A more scientific treatise, titled: 'Intersection of disgust and fear: Normative and pathological views' by Sheila R. Woody and Bethany Teachman of Yale University "Disgust. The word 'dis-gust' literally means bad taste. Consistent with this literal translation, many theorists have focused on food rejection and threat of oral incorporation as the central premise around which the disgust response is organized. Darwin (1965) defined disgust as 'something revolting, primarily in relation to the sense of taste, as actually perceived or vividly imagined; and secondarily to anything that causes a similar feeling, through the sense of smell, touch, and even eyesight' (p. 253). Other theorists have focused directly on the putative self-protective feature of disgust (Douglas, 1966; Tomkins, 1963) and on its connotation of debasement and corruption of purity (Angyal, 1941; Freud, 1926; Miller, 1997). Characterizing disgust as a defensive response raises a natural parallel with fear, and some researchers have proposed that disgust mediates fear of certain animals, through a protective disease avoidance function (Webb & Davey, 1992)." Much more in the document file: http://projectimplicit.net/nosek/bethany/Disgust&Fear.doc Naturally, there are varying degrees of both phobias and disgust sensitivity, and in both of these can be moderated when the stimuli are expected. A paper has been written, called: 'Voluntary emotion regulation among individuals high and low in disgust', by Andrew R. Yartz, Kenneth P. Lane, Andrew M. Baschnagel, & Larry W. Hawk, Jr. of The University at Buffalo, SUNY This article is listed on the following cached page of an educational institution I cannot identify other than the URL address of http://unix.wlu.edu/ since the site is not working: http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:GH136vDQchgJ:unix.wlu.edu/~spr/past_mtng/2002/02posters1.pdf+%22disgust+sensitivity%22+unexpected The cached pdf file of the Curriculum Vitae of one of the authors, Andrew Robert Yartz, also notes that he did his Ph.D. dissertation on the subject of 'Individual differences in disgust sensitivity and voluntary emotion regulation: Subjective, physiological, and behavioral responses to disgust and pleasant stimuli.' http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:9VoFXRvK0kwJ:www.uvm.edu/~psycahrl/ayvita.pdf+%22disgust+sensitivity%22+%22Voluntary+emotion+regulation%22 Unfortunately, the paper itself is not available. From the University of Virginia's Disgust Scale Homepage: "The Disgust Scale is a self-report personality scale that was developed by Jonathan Haidt, Clark McCauley, and Paul Rozin as a general tool for the study of disgust. It is used to measure individual differences in sensitivity to disgust, and to examine the relationships among different kinds of disgust." http://www.people.virginia.edu/~jdh6n/disgustscale.html There are links on the page for: The original 32-item Disgust Scale, from 1994: http://www.people.virginia.edu/~jdh6n/disgust.scale.original.doc The second 32-item Disgust Scale, from 2001: http://www.people.virginia.edu/~jdh6n/disgust.scale.2.doc The 8-item version of the second scale, from 2002: http://www.people.virginia.edu/~jdh6n/disgust.scale.2.short.form.doc And a webpage devoted to an article by the authors of the scale, entitled: 'Individual Differences in Sensitivity to Disgust: A scale sampling seven domains of disgust elicitors.' http://www.people.virginia.edu/~jdh6n/dscalepap.html Another article by the same authors, as well as Lance Dunlop and Michelle Ashmore, entitled: 'Individual Differences in Disgust Sensitivity: Comparisons and Evaluations of Paper-and-Pencil versus Behavioral Measures' http://www.people.virginia.edu/~jdh6n/haidt.disgust-validation-ideal.pdf One of the domains in which disgust sensitivity is measured is 'body envelope violations', which describes a sensitity to imagining or having the skin punctured. This and other domains are discussed in an article called: 'The role of disgust sensitivity in blood-injury fears' by Anne Schienle, Rudolf Stark & Dieter Vaitl, as published in the International Journal of Psychophysiology, 1998, 30, 105, and available in this pdf file on the homepage of one of the authors, Dr. Anne Schienle: http://134.176.77.94/hp2/docs/Abst_Disgust.pdf Or, you can view it in your browser in Google's cache: http://216.239.57.104/search?q=cache:f2ZfBv-3mCYJ:134.176.77.94/hp2/docs/Abst_Disgust.pdf+%22disgust+sensitivity%22 I was pleased to learn this new terminology along with you. Although I have worked in the field of mental health for 20+ years, I had not heard of it until I researched your question. Please do not rate this answer until you are satisfied that the answer cannot be improved upon by way of a dialog established through the "Request for Clarification" process. sublime1-ga Additional information may be found from further exploration of the links provided above, as well as those resulting from the Google searches outlined below. Searches done, via Google: vasovagal syncope ://www.google.com/search?q=vasovagal+syncope term "pit of the stomach" ~injuries OR ~wounds ://www.google.com/search?q=term+%22pit+of+the+stomach%22+%7Einjuries+OR+%7Ewounds term reaction "sight of blood" ://www.google.com/search?q=term+reaction+%22sight+of+blood%22 "disgust sensitivity" ://www.google.com/search?q=%22disgust+sensitivity%22 "disgust sensitivity" "Voluntary emotion regulation" ://www.google.com/search?q=%22disgust+sensitivity%22+%22Voluntary+emotion+regulation%22 "disgust sensitivity" unexpected ://www.google.com/search?q=%22disgust+sensitivity%22+unexpected "affective startle modulation" ://www.google.com/search?q=%22affective+startle+modulation%22 "Startle reflex" "disgust sensitivity" ://www.google.com/search?q=%22Startle+reflex%22+%22disgust+sensitivity%22
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  • Wow! This represents a fantastic amount of research and I'm grateful. What a great gig you have! Just one point of clarification, which you may pursue or not, based on your interest: what you've already done is already worth what I bid and more. I'd like to hear more about what you described as Sympathy Pain, based on Empathetic respons to another's pain. What I meant to rule out by saying I was not having any 'empathic' reaction is any insinuation of a psychic or ESP 'sharing' of pain; that's definitely not what I'm talking about. Though all these articles are absolutely fascinating, I think the 'disgust' trail might be going in the wrong direction. Several reasons I think that: 1) I don't experience what I'm feeling as revulsion or have a desire to pull away or feel a little ill or queasy, which seem to be normal correlates with a 'disgust' response, nor do I have the characteristic 'sneering' facial expression of disgust with the upper lip drawn up. 2) The response I have can happen when someone is simply describing something that happened to them that was painful ('I slammed my finger in the door.'--a classic time when it happens). I have no need to see or even imagine actual 'body-envelope-compromise' in order to get this effect. In fact, I have no trouble with needles or getting blood drawn or watching others get their blood drawn. Also, and this is rather indelicate, I know, but I offer it in a purely scientific spirit. I am male and, when I have this response, one of the symptoms is that my testes draw up momentarily--in fact, that may be the source of the pain I experience. I'm not even sure, anatomically, what muscles or other reflexes are responsible for that kind of response. Though I'm familiar with this response to stimuli such as temperature changes or arousal, I've never heard of it as a momentary 'shock' response. Again, if you'd like to pursue this clarification because you're interested, but I'm very impressed with the amount of work already put into this. Thank you!



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