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Published by: jane 2009-01-07
  • I was recently issued a summons in New York City for public urination; Violation sec 16-118 sub (6) (it is not 100% clear on the summons). What type of crime is it? What is the typical fine/punishment? Is it advisable to bring legal consel?


  • Hi henrychicheung, Urinating in public is considered to be a "civility crime" or a "quality of life offense". According to the site: http://www.furious.com/assorted/nyvsmayo.html "My hopes were dashed, though, when I saw that almost everyone there ended up paying a fine. Drinking in public, smoking marijuana in public, urinating in public, even spitting in public (though I imagine they must have spit in the general vicinity of the ticket-bearing officer), all paid a fine of anywhere from fifty-five to seventy-five dollars. This was starting to get boring." Google Answers researchers can only provide general information (see Important Disclaimer at the bottom of this page) therefore we cannot advise you on whether to bring legal counsel of not. With that said, according to a similar Google Answers question, a commenter posted the following: Subject: Re: New York City Violation http://www.answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=117360 From: moskvich78-ga on 28 Jul 2004 10:09 PDT "also, people with public urination tix: you cannot argue your case unless you have a medical condition that prevents you from holding it in. also, SHOW UP EARLY!" ================================================= http://www.wsws.org/articles/2000/jan2000/nyc-j22.shtml Markee from the Coalition of the Homeless said that the homeless are often given summonses for minor violations like drinking in public, obstructing sidewalks or urinating in public. One of the men was arrested for not appearing in court to respond to a charge of trespassing. Markee also explained that the homeless would rarely appear in court to answer these summonses. One of the men who was removed from his bed and held in a cell complained that he was given a summons for urinating, but that it had little or no writing on it, and he could not figure out where or when to report. Therefore he just threw it away. ================================================== Frequently Asked Questions http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/html/misc/pdfaq2.html What is "Zero-Tolerance" policing? "Zero-Tolerance" was instituted over ten years ago as a full-scale strategic attack on all crime and disorder in the City. In particular it focuses on the enforcement of "quality of life offenses" such as drinking alcoholic beverages in the street, urinating in public, panhandling, loud radios, graffiti and disorderly conduct. By quickly addressing and correcting these minor problems, the Department sends the message that more serious crime will not be tolerated. To meet the specific needs of their individual communities, local Police commanders have been granted significantly more authority and latitude in deploying there resources and implementing their own operations to help carry out this initiative. ================================================= http://www.sullivan-county.com/identity/arrest.htm A spokesman for the New York City Police Department said it was too early to comment about how the court's decision might affect the department, which since the election of Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani has focused intensely on so-called quality of life offenses, like smoking on the subways and urinating in public. For such offenses, as well as for motor vehicle violations, the police will issue summonses rather than make arrests. ================================================= http://weeklywire.com/ww/05-03-99/nash_cl-closer_look.html New York achieved its breakthrough crime reduction by the simple expedient of getting the police to focus on reducing crime. Historically, police departments tend to take a covert pleasure in rising crime rates, as they underscore the importance of the police mission and help make the case for even more police resources. In the early 1990s, Giuliani and his first police commissioner, William Bratton, reversed that notion by holding local police commanders responsible for the safety of their neighborhoods and expecting them to get out in front of the problems with remedies reaching beyond just taking reports from victims. At the same time, the police also focused on matters of public order--stopping lifestyle offenses like public drunkenness, public urination, and, most famously, disarming the squeegeemen who extorted money from motorists to not clean their windshields. ================================================= http://www.laworderreferendum.org.nz/NewYork.htm Increased numbers of police and improved police practices have brought a decline not only in major crime categories but also in minor, "quality of life" violations. The once omnipresent "squeegee" people (you do want your windshield washed, don't you?) have disappeared, aggressive panhandling on the streets and in the subways has dropped off sharply, and reduced toleration for public drinking has (not surprisingly) reduced the incidence of public urination. ================================================= Best regards, tlspiegel
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