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Sep 30, 2008 I have an Xbox 360 Pro bundle up for trade. It is about 8 months old but Nikon D40 or D40x * Nikon D70 or D70s * Nikon 85mm f1.8 lens
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I am looking to upgrade my D40, which I have had for about 3 months now. The lack of an AF motor is really frustrating, and I want something slightly more durable. I was either going to go with the D50 or the D70, but while I can probably afford it I'm going to go with the D70. The question is, what does the D70 lack that the D40 has (with the exception of smaller screen and size)? What are the advantages of the D70 over the D40?
A D40 and a D40s are not the same thing, which do you have? Your signature says D40, yet you are comparing it to a D40s' price.
If you can get 350, all the more power to you, but I'm highly doubting it.
D40s being the plural of D40. I didn't actually mean D40s. I didn't even know they existed.
So so D40's only advantages are size, screen, and buffer time? What about IQ. Is the D40 IQ better than the D70?
I think the D40 has a more sensitive sensor (base ISO is 200) and better high ISO performance than the D70.. can anyone confirm that?
Probably, electronics evolve and lower their prices very fast :D
One thing that you will apparently find is that the D70 has really lousy and dark viewfinder.
I think the D40 has a more sensitive sensor (base ISO is 200) and better high ISO performance than the D70.. can anyone confirm that?
Yes on the base ISO. Not sure on the ISO performance, but I would expect so.
^^ to be fair, the larger screen can make a difference in doing just what you describe. Ask anyone with a D300.
IMO the D70 is a way better overall camera than the D50, and the D80 is of course better than that. If you're choosing between D50 and a GOOD QUALITY D70... D70 ALL THE WAY.
By the way, be SURE to get a D70S! Some big improvements in the D70S over the D70.
I think the D40 has a more sensitive sensor (base ISO is 200) and better high ISO performance than the D70.. can anyone confirm that?
What are the advantages of the D70 over the D40?
AF motor, slightly more durable
You answered yourself. The D70 is somewhat older technology, but as far as I see it's at least on par with the D40 as far as image quality. The lack of AF motor is frustrating you, you want more durability, and a fringe benefit is that the D70 has that more "pro" ease of use i.e. more wheels and whatnot, I haven't used it but it should be quicker to adjust settings and the top LCD screen is always nice.
I think a D70 is a better choice for anybody looking for or using a D40.
Eh, it really depends how much my D40 body will sell for. If it sells for like $350 (which it will probably) then I'm probably not gonna dish out an extra $150 for an upgraded body. I would rather put it toward a good lens. What will the D80 give me that the D70 wont?
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I really don't see you getting 350 for your D40, they are available for 382 Canadian brand new...
I also agree with the fact that the d40 to d70 is a very minute upgrade. If you want an actual upgrade, skip all the other entry level bodies and go for a D300 or other mid-level body (such as a used D200, but I prefer the CMOS in the D300).. if you're wanting to stay with an entry-level, I'd probably go with the D90 over a D80 as well.
Eh, it really depends how much my D40 body will sell for. If it sells for like $350 (which it will probably) then I'm probably not gonna dish out an extra $150 for an upgraded body. I would rather put it toward a good lens. What will the D80 give me that the D70 wont?
You're right that the d40 and d70 are about even trades $$ wise and a D80 will cost you at least $150 more. D80 has the same feel and layout of a D70 but with a D40 size LCD screen and memory buffer--it also has the d200's 10mp sensor.
That said, I would agree with your assessment that you're better off putting $$ into a lens then a body.
A D40 and a D40s are not the same thing, which do you have? Your signature says D40, yet you are comparing it to a D40s' price.
If you can get 350, all the more power to you, but I'm highly doubting it.
i think he meant "D40's" not "D40s"...
You're right that the d40 and d70 are about even trades $$ wise and a D80 will cost you at least $150 more. D80 has the same feel and layout of a D70 but with a D40 size LCD screen and memory buffer--it also has the d200's 10mp sensor.
That said, I would agree with your assessment that you're better off putting $$ into a lens then a body.
Screen is not important because the only reason I use the screen is to determine if there is something severely wrong with the photo. I also don't need the extra MP. I am not printing poster sized photos, and all those extra MP will do is waste my memory card faster.
The buffer seems like the only thing significant, and I rarely shoot things that move. That being said, how do I find the number of shutter acutations on my D40?
Default ISO on both the D70 and D40 is 200.
ahhhh ok cool then...scratch my info ;)
i think he meant "D40's" not "D40s"...
You're probably right there, since it's the D40x, not D40s, was thinking D70/D70s, my bad :p
Yea, if I buy a D70 its going to be the S version. I have been seeing things that suggest the D40 has better IQ. is this true?
Ah. Thats good, but it doesn't seem too significant, except for the battery life and the AF accuracy.
Base ISO is 200... I wouldn't call that "more sensitive", I'd call it a pain in the ass.
I have no info on high ISO performance but it would stand to reason that the D40 is gonna be slightly better at least.
if im not mistaken, the D40 has a faster flash sync.
maybe someone can confirm that.
adorama (http://www.adorama.com/catalog.tpl?op=itemlist&cat1=Used&cat2=Nikon%20Digital&cat3=Cameras) has used nikon D70s bodys for $350
great deal you can use all the lens that you have and AF the Nikkor AF 50mm 1.8
or alot of older lens
im getting the D70s with the 18-70 for $450 great deal
I would, if I had the money. If somehow I do get the money it will be for lenses. I just don't really see what I really need in a D300 that a D70 won't give me.
Over here D40s are $500 brand new with the kit lens. The kit lens is about $60 (I think), and I'm probably gonna lose 100 if its not new. I'm hoping to get $300-350.
Still any word on IQ compared to the D40?
A D40 and a D40s are not the same thing, which do you have? Your signature says D40, yet you are comparing it to a D40s' price.
If you can get 350, all the more power to you, but I'm highly doubting it.
I'd call that fairly significant. (not to mention the larger screen)
I mean, it's nothing to saw your arm off over, but if you're out looking for them you may as well buy the S version. Can't imagine it's going to be that much more expensive.
if im not mistaken, the D40 has a faster flash sync.Nope, the D40 and D70 both flash sync up to 1/500th.
Screen size and memory buffer are the only "downgrades" from a d40. Memory buffer is only an issue if you shoot raw--you'll only get about 3 full speed spots when shooting raw before you are slowed down a bit by the transfer to the memory card.
If I were you I would seriously consider moving up to a d80 or d200, a d40 to d70 is a really small step forward (focus motor and more external controls). If you buy a D80 you can keep using the same memory cards (the d70 and d200 use compact flash).
I see used D80's for sale for $500 all the time, and a used d200 can be had for $750.
Personally I'm a huge fan of the d200, as it will meter with older non-cpu lenses.
Eh, it really depends how much my D40 body will sell for. If it sells for like $350 (which it will probably) then I'm probably not gonna dish out an extra $150 for an upgraded body. I would rather put it toward a good lens. What will the D80 give me that the D70 wont?
What are the improvements of the D70s over the D70?
I really don't see you getting 350 for your D40, they are available for 382 Canadian brand new...
I also agree with the fact that the d40 to d70 is a very minute upgrade. If you want an actual upgrade, skip all the other entry level bodies and go for a D300 or other mid-level body (such as a used D200, but I prefer the CMOS in the D300).. if you're wanting to stay with an entry-level, I'd probably go with the D90 over a D80 as well.
I would, if I had the money. If somehow I do get the money it will be for lenses. I just don't really see what I really need in a D300 that a D70 won't give me.
Over here D40s are $500 brand new with the kit lens. The kit lens is about $60 (I think), and I'm probably gonna lose 100 if its not new. I'm hoping to get $300-350.
Still any word on IQ compared to the D40?
Screen size and memory buffer are the only "downgrades" from a d40. Memory buffer is only an issue if you shoot raw--you'll only get about 3 full speed spots when shooting raw before you are slowed down a bit by the transfer to the memory card.
If I were you I would seriously consider moving up to a d80 or d200, a d40 to d70 is a really small step forward (focus motor and more external controls). If you buy a D80 you can keep using the same memory cards (the d70 and d200 use compact flash).
I see used D80's for sale for $500 all the time, and a used d200 can be had for $750.
Personally I'm a huge fan of the d200, as it will meter with older non-cpu lenses.
Man I KNEW someone was gonna ask that:
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EDIT: Summary from Dpreview: "Nikon has today announced an upgraded version of the D70, the new D70s. This camera has the same CCD sensor and imaging pipeline as the D70 so image quality should be identical. However several changes have been introduced including improved auto focus accuracy, slightly wider flash coverage, a higher capacity battery, a new larger 2.0" LCD monitor and re-designed menus. The D70s Kit including the 18-70 mm lens will cost around $1199 (�899.99/€1343), while the body only will be $899 (�699.99/€1045), expected to ship in early May. "
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