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I just wonder if the new version V2 of outpost is able to do that. I heard sygate's pro version is able to do that...able to mask your real browser info...which is both your browser version and Operating System... Is outpost able to do this too? If yes, what setting should be done?
Well, thats what i need to know! If outpost has no options for that, maybe we can put this thread back to suggestions page?
Originally posted by code_bug
Well, thats what i need to know! If outpost has no options for that, maybe we can put this thread back to suggestions page?
This thread doesn't really fit well into the suggestions and feedback forum. If you'd like to make a specific suggestion, feel free to start a new thread in that forum.
Bear in mind, of course, that a configurable USER_AGENT reply is an item already suggested and, as far as I know, in todo.
Good if thats the case, i can sleep well now! Thanks alot guys... surely many things to do.
I think the configurable thing is much better... well, thats a clever idea.
And also the site per site referring.
And also, ..... OUTPOST THE BEST!
You can use naviscope to block user agent which is what sygate uses to detect your op and browser (not referrers) on a site to site basis (referreres can be blocked too).Its free and works with 98 and xp
http://www.naviscope.com/
me
Well, you mean all scripts java/activex/cookies/referrers all those disabled? ANyway, thanks for telling me the importance of BOM/DOMs..i was just thinking if it is a firewall flaw.
By the way... does outpost able to elude OS fingerprinting scanners such as nmap utility in linux? Does it able to stealth your computer completely and wisely? Wont Outpost hang when bombed with altered fragmented packets? Too many questions... i hope it can.... coz i love the interface:)
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Well...if you really want to read what im thinking..yeah, im just comparing Sygate's Features against outposts'. Well, its just their feature list is really specific as to what it can do and i didnt see this in Outpost's features...
Can anyone cheer me up and tell me i made the right choice? Outpost the best!!!
If you have a valuable data, you need sOS. :p
Thread moved from Suggestions & Feedback to General Discussions.
Both 'The proxomitron' and 'Webwasher' are great for blocking the 'referrer' attribute.
I frequent allsorts of websites! *cough* *cough* I find that about 1 in 100 pages don't allow you to view the pics or whatever without 'referrer' being allowable.
I think (I could be wrong) that Fortune City have a policy whereby the 'referrer' attribute is mandatory.
It was able to obtain my OS and browser identity too, but nothing else. This doesn't bother me too much though. As long as a website doesn't know where I came from and where I'm going, I'm happy.
Originally posted by Machiavellian
I find that about 1 in 100 pages don't allow you to view the pics or whatever without 'referrer' being allowable.
This is has been my general experience too. Really looking forward to the allow refferers on a site by site basis feature! ;)
Hi. First of all, it is not a good idea to disable referrers. Many sites will not work with referrers blocked, and when that happens you get no indication of whats going on.
Outpost will stealth your computer, no problem. Although that is not as important as some people think, still when I run scans, I expect it to be stealth.
Outpost will not hang if someone takes the time and effort to try to knock you offline. You can test for many exploits at PC Flank and BlackCode. Outpost passes with flying colors.
Sygate is not near the firewall Outpost is. :p
Originally posted by Machiavellian
Why do they want to know anyway?
Referer information can be used for all kinds of things, checking to see that people are not constantly arriving at a page from an error page, if they are then someone will be able to fix the problem but only if they can see that they have a problem.
The web page may pay refering sites for click-throughs.
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Can be used to offer you promotions and benefits based on what page you were previously at in a site (like Amazon.co.uk does) and so on.
The kind of info code_bug was interested in blocking such as OS, language version etc. (really all the DOM/BOM) can be used in many ways such as deciding when to offer your site in another language, if half the people visiting your site are from Germany a site may want to provide a German language version, screen resolution, OS and browser etc are useful to make sure scripting works or to redirect you to a page for your browser, or to alter content based on those detected values.
Plugins can use the information too to decide whether you have the correct version to view what is on the page and so on.
Originally posted by Machiavellian
This is a great forum, and 'Outpost' is the only firewall that has caused me to ditch the excellent 'Kerio'!
:) (I like using them ;) and they suit email and chat which is pretty much written as people speak, they replace the visual cues missing from such communication)
Hi (first posting here),
I've blocked 'referrers' now for about three years. I'd hazard a guess that at least 98% of 'sites that I have requested, have still been accessible to me.
As far as I'm concerned, it's no-one's business but mine, as to which websites I have visited. Why do they want to know anyway?
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By the way, 'Outpost' is the most conprehensive and configurable firewall I have ever used. The plugins are amazing. I recommend that people use it along side the latest beta version of 'System Safety Monitor' for total protection.
This is a great forum, and 'Outpost' is the only firewall that has caused me to ditch the excellent 'Kerio'!
see?....:)
me
You're lucky. I would venture to say that half the websites I go to require referrers to work correctly.
Argghhhh.... bad bad me i forgot to enable cookies... my reply post was trashed :D anyway...here i am again!
Well, correct... the thing i want to block is DOM/BOM thing but my big question is... can Outpost V2 do that? Because i tried the idea to disable all components under the active content, and i did that...but still i wasnt able to completely stealth my browsing... says that im still using w98 / IE 5.5!
Well, can someone tell me if outpost can really block those informations to that website? If it can... how can this be done?
I know that its not necessary to block those information since i already know its needed but still, can i know if outpost has the option to block those DOM/BOM thing?
If you have a valuable data, you need sOS.
If you really want this information hidden just block all scripting. This kind of information is accessed by scripts using the Document Object Model and your Browser Object Model (making this kind of info accessable to web sites is what the DOM/BOMs are for, scripts accessing this kind of information are not doing anything they shouldn't be doing). Blocking all scripts will stop this from happening, if that's what you want. The Sygate one is probably more selective about what parts of the DOM/BOM can be accessed, but it be doing pretty much the same thing.
Why do you want to do this? Most of the time your OS and browser are needed to determine what scripting to use to allow the website to function for the software your using (scripting is different from browser to browser, even the same browser on a different OS can interpret things differently). Blocking scripting will mean that some sites won't function.
Originally posted by code_bug
Well, i tried completely deleting my temporary files...all files, but still was able to identify my OS and browser version.
Have you tried it yourself guys? Have you tried being scanned and then obtaining a unknown OS/Browser? Im confused...i already deleted all temporary traces of files. And i actually disabled all active content components... still, it was able to identify my OS/Browser? Hmmm... im i doing something wrong?
Hi code_bug,
Being able to configure the USER_AGENT HTTP field (which is how web sites can tell what OS and browser you're using) is an item that's in todo. It's not possible with Outpost to "stealth" these items.
The reality is that there isn't much of a privacy risk to a web site knowing what web browser you're using, unless you're the only person on the net using that browser (highly unlikely).
Make sure it is web pages that you changed to block, the old version of Outpost had E-mail settings above web pages, it's the other way round in V.2 - took me a while to spot that!
Also try clering your browsers cache before doing the scan.
Well, i tried completely deleting my temporary files...all files, but still was able to identify my OS and browser version.
Have you tried it yourself guys? Have you tried being scanned and then obtaining a unknown OS/Browser? Im confused...i already deleted all temporary traces of files. And i actually disabled all active content components... still, it was able to identify my OS/Browser? Hmmm... im i doing something wrong?
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