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I'm trying to watch some anime and the subtitles are hardcoded into the video files. They show up just fine and look good. They are smooth and I can change all the settings and they work just fine.

The problem is that the text itself appears stretched... I am a graphic designer and I know what the font Arial is supposed to look like. The font appearing on the screen is definitely stretched. Has anyone else run into this issue? Does anyone know what the problem could be? The Arial-iso fonts don't look stretched, but they are pixelated on a 42" tv. I've tried adding other TrueType Fonts and using them; they appear stretched too.

My setup/settings:
42" 1080p TV
Screen resolution set to 720p
Video resolution set to Best Available (I've also tried 720p)
Subtitles are size 28 Arial, Bold, White and Default Character Set

Any ideas?

I forgot to say...

The subtitles used to look ok about i9 or 10 months ago. I've upgraded XBMC since then a few times and the problem started sometime between then and now.

Thanks for any help.

I've already subbmitted ticket on XBMC Trac about it (http://xbmc.org/trac/ticket/5004). I have the same problem, I also use Arial Narrow;) I hope they will fix it soon...

Have you calibrated the screen under XBMC GUI settings so that thee pixel-ratio is perfectly square?

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...and please (always) upload a debug log to pastebin.com (http://pastebin.com) and post the link to it.

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I have the same "problem", the subtitles are stretched when using 720p... I thought it was simply accepted by the devs for some technical reasons (great workaround using arial narrow, btw, I cannot understand how that didn't occurred to me!!!)... When it happened I thought of it not as a bug but as an accepted behavior of XBMC, a decision by the developers to get better performance or something.

I do not think a debug log will show anything meaningful, everything works OK, only the subs are shown expanded when using 16:9 AR. It started to happen sometime in the last year or so, and happens in all my 3 xboxes.

So the stretching was not intended? and no developer noticed it in the many months after the change? :shocked:

So, I suppose they do not use subs... my admiration for them is now even greater!!! they made a feature that works so well even when they personally never use it!!!! :sniffle: this stretching is just a cosmetic nuisance that is easily overcome using arial narrow...

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http://xbmc.org/trac/ticket/5004 Jonathan fixed it in the SVN now, thanks for reporting the bug on trac.

This problem is still persistent with ass/ssa subtitles that have wrong PlayResX and PlayResY values. However this isn't happening with Haali Media Splitter and VSFilter in Windows environment. Let me explain:

Here (http://pastebin.com/f47e08ec) is an .ass subtitle file with wrong PlayResX and PlayResY values.

And here (http://pastebin.com/f5fe28257) is an .ass subtitle file with correct PlayResX and PlayResY values.

By "wrong" values I mean the default values that many subtitle programs insert to these fields and that the most subtitles come with (not the values of the played video and many times not in the right aspect ratio). By "correct" values I mean X and Y resolution of the video that subtitles belong to (or in the same aspect ratio).

Debug.log (http://pastebin.com/f7549e742) and picture of the subtitles appearing stretched:

http://xs132.xs.to/xs132/08421/fail399.png.xs.jpg (http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs132&d=08421&f=fail399.png)

Debug.log (http://pastebin.com/f321fc0de) and picture of the subtitles displayed correctly:

http://xs132.xs.to/xs132/08421/working105.png.xs.jpg (http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs132&d=08421&f=working105.png)

I do not know why this isn't happening with Haali (these are subtitles in .mkv) and VSFilter. This combination displays subtitles in correct aspect ratio even if the PlayResX and PlayResY are incorrect but XBMC doesn't. Perhaps VSFilter determines the resolution being used to playback the video instead of the values in the ass/ssa subtitle file and therefore is able to always display them correctly. I wonder if this would be possible with XBMC too since almost all the embedded subtitles in .mkv files (that I have, atleast) are in ass/ssa format and with "incorrect" default PlayResX and PlayResY values :(

Cosmetic nuisance? Don't you know that XBMC is going to be perfect with Atlantis release?

Honestly, stretched subs is not a big deal for almost all people but not me when my wife is asking "Why do these subtitles look so funny?!". ;-)

That's not the same issue. It is, however, the same issue as specified here:

http://xbmc.org/trac/ticket/4351

Please add your comments to that ticket.

Cheers,
Jonathan

So for know I'm working around this using Arial Narrow (it looks like Arial on the screen) but it's still an issue for other fonts..

Have you calibrated the screen under XBMC GUI settings so that thee pixel-ratio is perfectly square?

...and please (always) upload a debug log to pastebin.com (http://pastebin.com) and post the link to it.

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