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Why does everyone believe that Catholics worship Mary? | | Published by: cfz 2009-01-09 |
| | Because we don't. She is the Mother of God not God himself. We pray to her for intervention on our behalf. Just like all the other saints. We pray for intervention because they are the strongest link between God and humanity. ( Mother Mary being the strongest of course)
Funny how Protestants badmouth the idea of intervention, or intercession, yet they ask their friends and family and pastor to pray for them, and they themselves pray for their family and friends. Intercession all over the place. Apparently what they really believe is that the intercession of earthly sinners is heard by God but the intercession of heavenly saints is not. Or to put it another way, our prayers to God are heard by Him as long as we are on earth, but not when we stand before His throne in heaven. Strange! If I pray for my family and friends while I am on earth, do you suppose I will stop praying for them once I am in heaven??
Why do Catholics pray in the Virgin Mary?::
44 postsFinally, another error non-Catholics make is thinking that we believe Mary herself . Catholics know Mary is God's creature. We do not worship Mary.
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As for the notion of "worshipping Mary", that would be idolatry, and the Catholic Church absolutely condemns idolatry in all its forms, as you can easily discover by picking up a copy of the Catechism of the Catholic Church, and looking up "idolatry" in the index.
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Yea, I know. They think we're really messed up.
This site will give you some great information:
http://catholic.com/library/Saint_Worshi...
God bless.
Before Jesus came the Hebrews had to go through a priest to get to God. Jesus broke that barrier. he said pray to the Father in my name. Praying to Mary or any saint would be blasphemous.
You also misunderstand the "trinity". Mary is the mother of Jesus the human, not God the Son. To say she is the mother of God is blasphemous.
This is just one of the reasons that conservative Christianity calls the catholic church a cult. This is a good reason for it.
Part of it is that you make her a major player in the story. Leaving her out is blasphemy. My grandparents were Roman Catholics. Once, my cousins told them they really didn't focus on Mary. That she played a smallish role. My grandparents were offended. Seriously offended. That they were following the wrong religious beliefs. Why, because of Mary alone?
She is treated almost, as not God, but in a "mother" role, which is VERY akin symbolically to what a goddess would be in pagan ritual and belief.
You pray to her. Really, you should only be praying to God. According to the commandments, that's a no-no.
You have a holiday which celebrates her conception even. Do you have this for any of the other saints. That's right, Mary is a saint.
You have a prayer specifically dedicated to her. You say the rosary, which consists of primarily 5 decates of Hail Mary's. Do you have prayers referencing anyone else other than Jesus, the father and Holy Spirit? Other than Mary? Ones they make you memorize at catechism class?
Church buildings have statues, figures and pictures dedicated to her.
And it's usually catholics that have seen her image in a variety of secular objects. It's rarely Jesus that they see on the side of buildings, in paint splotches and whatever. She appears in other forms to other catholic believers.
Your names for her are "The Blessed Virgin Mary (also abbreviated to "BVM"), Our Lady (Notre Dame, Nuestra Señora, Nossa Senhora, Madonna), Mother of God, and the Queen of Heaven (Regina Coeli)."
She is the only other person other than Jesus to not technically die but go DIRECTLY to heaven.
On another note please see below the definition of worship per dictionary.com
"wor·ship /ˈwɜrʃɪp/ Pronunciation[wur-ship] verb, -shiped, -ship·ing or (especially British) -shipped, -ship·ping.
â “noun 1. reverent honor and homage paid to God or a sacred personage, or to any object regarded as sacred.
2. formal or ceremonious rendering of such honor and homage: They attended worship this morning.
3. adoring reverence or regard: excessive worship of business success.
4. the object of adoring reverence or regard.
5. (initial capital letter) British. a title of honor used in addressing or mentioning certain magistrates and others of high rank or station (usually prec. by Your, His, or Her).
â “verb (used with object)
6. to render religious reverence and homage to.
7. to feel an adoring reverence or regard for (any person or thing).
8. to render religious reverence and homage, as to a deity.
9. to attend services of divine worship.
10. to feel an adoring reverence or regard. "
You CERTAINLY follow the above definitions.
Don't worry about it.
What's important is that Jesus honors his mother.
And if Jesus does, so should his Church.
And if the Church does, so should we all, as members of God's Church.
The logic is so simple, even most protestants might be able to understand it, if any of their leaders ever took the time to properly explain it to them.
Well actually, dont get mad by my opinion...I believe Jesus is the only link between God and humanity. The bible says that we have an advocate with the father, which is Jesus. I also believe that Mary was just merely a vessel, so were the other Saints. Our main focus in life is to have a relationship with Jesus Christ......And only him...
shes not the mother of god.
god created her, how can she be his mother?
if she is gods mother then she created god thus she would be the creator of god.
secondly, you pray to mary, the bible speaks against speaking to spirits.
John 14:6
Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
and "me" in that doesnt mean mary.
sorry but mary holds no importance here. Jesus is the "strongest link between god and humanity" ...
if jesus is god, then why did jesus say, "my god my god why have you forsaken me"
does your god have a god above him?
The answer to the question compliments the false doctrine of the RCC. It is living proof that a cesspool of deceit and abominations against God the Father are alive and well in Satan who has enslaved the entire RCC. Report Abuse
Because Rev. Billy Bob said that catholics do that.
Certain groups of people feel better, more "right", if they have an outgroup to hate. :(
It looks like that to many.
Mary was nothing but a vessel;all glory,honor and praise belongs to Jesus Christ.
God bless you, your right on.
why would you pray to her at all, you pray to God himself, praying to mary is a waste of time
Because you know that secretly you do... and that the Pope is the anti-Christ
If you actually read your Bible it tells you to NOT pray to anyone, or anything. Jesus is your only interceptor, not Mary. She can not do a thing for you. Why do you go against what Jesus taught , and pray to saints? If you are a Christian, you pray to God in the name of Jesus and that is it. You deny what Jesus has done for you by praying to dead humans. By the way, Paul called ALL Christians saints, not just a select few people chosen by some man who calls himself Pope. The Catholic church goes against many things that Jesus taught and demanded and commanded. Read your Bible and you will know this. The pope does not save you. Mary does not save you and nor do dead people that are considered saints. You are saved by the blood of Christ Jesus.
By the way, Mary stopped being a virgin when she gave birth to Jesus Christ's brother and sister. James was the brother of Jesus. The Catholic church does not teach the exact truth of the word of God. For that matter, half of the priests don't truly believe in God in the biblical literal truth. I have listened to them say as much. It floored me. These are supposedly teachers of God's word.
To pray to Mary is a form of worship. To pray to the saints is a form of worship. You are placing an importance to them that only belongs to God and Christ Jesus. The Bible clearly states this. Who told you to pray to anyone or any thing besides God and Jesus? The Bible didn't. No man has the permission of God to change God's word. This is made quite clea by Jesus. It was one of the woe be unto you things that you don't really want to do. Facing God's wrath isn't my idea of having a good time.
And why do you give me a thumbs down? Do you dislike the truth? I only go by God's word. So by giving me a thumb down you give the word of Jesus and God a thumb down. I do not critisize you, I only point out facts that are very clear in the Bible and are in plain black and white and red letter. It isn't a matter of seeing it different. Jesus spoke very clear and to the point with no mystery in this. So, why do I get thumbs down? Do you hate God's truth? Is the Pope more important to you than Jesus?
Read for yourself of God's word and do not rely on what some one else tells you. Man will decieve you, God and Jesus will only tell you the truth.
By the way, reputable biblical scholars, including Catholic scholars have agreed through studying scripture that James was actually the blood brother of Jesus. There is no place in scripture that any apostle called Mary their mother in any sense of the word. That is a made up fairy tale done by Catholics to defend the false belief of Mary going to the grave as a virgin. You have no scripture what so ever to back up what you say. Go read your Bible and you will see this. You need to pay more attention to what Jesus said, not what a man in a robe told you on Sunday at church.
When you prayer through Mary to God the Father, you pray in vain!!........In the Bible, there is no example of anyone ever trying to go to Jesus or God the Father through Mary!!.........It is written, God is one. One also is the mediator between God and men, the Christ Jesus who gave Himself as a ransom for all (1 Timothy 2:5-6). Jesus said,....... "I am the way, and the truth and the life; no one comes to the Father but through me" (John 14:6)........Christ is the only mediator. He puts us directly in touch with God by taking away the sins that separated us, so that we can come to Him directly........History informs us that prayers to Mary began around the end of the fourth century after Christ. Certainly if she had been alive she would have never permitted this practice!!.......As a pious woman, she would never have accepted prayer as it should be directed to God alone......The church of Rome teaches that Mary should be called the mother of God, an expression that is never used in the Bible. The reasoning is that she is the Mother of Jesus Christ, and He is God. While at first glance the reasoning souds acceptable, if she were the mother of God, we would have to conclude that the creature was the mother of the creator: that is that Mary, who was born at a particular moment of history, was the mother of everything about God which has existed from all eternity (Genesis 1:1; John1:1-3,14). The Bible does not teach this. Instead, it teaches that God, who has always existed, took on a human nature by means of the virgin birth. Thus Mary was the mother of Christ's human nature, but not of His divine nature which has existed from all eternity (John 8:57-58). To avoid causing confusion on this point, the term mother of God should never be used........
because they only know what their idiot preachers tell them, and lets face it, those guys can preach after just one year in a 'bible college' that teaches subjects like 'how to make money from your constituents', and 'how to spread YOUR teachings'
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So, if god didn't create mary, would he have never been born and thus never have existed?
Because the Roman church is making Mary into a co-redemptrix, and praying to anyone instead of God is spiritual adultery. We are told by our Catholic friends that they venerate and don't worship Mary, but, as you can see in the dictionary links below, there is little difference between veneration and worship.
Besides, according to the Bible, "There is one God. There is also one mediator between God and man - the man, Christ Jesus." (I Timothy 2:5)
I know you don't. My whole family (but me) is Catholic.
I think they do it because, like with just about everything else, they aren't willing to become educated about it.
I know. Those other protestants like to insult Catholics like we are pagans or Mary worshippers. We are not! She is an important figure and we venerate her because she gave birth to Jesus and the angel Gabriel said "blessed are you among all women", this isn't a regular woman. Even Luther who led the Protestant Reformation had a devotion to Mary. They should know this.
If you feel a need to pray to Mary as an intercessor, than have at it; however, keep in mind that when Christ was crucified, the veil of the Holy of Holies was rent (torn) from top to bottom, so that all of Gods children could have immediate access to Him, directly. I would think that if my child would only speak to me through my mom, that I would be a bit insulted by that. Your Heavenly Father has feelings and emotions, too. Perhaps you should consider them.
The Catholic "saints" are not Biblical. The word "saint" means "set aside ones" - they are Gods Election or "elect", and no man, or even pope, can name any person a "saint". The Elect of God was named already, by God, according to the manuscripts, right after the war where Satan rebelled, which was way before Adam and Eve and this flesh age began.
This group is not open for new recruits. All those saints you pray to, are not necessarily from the Election - who knows, maybe some are, maybe some aren't - but man does not get to decide that.
The reason the Elect is a named group, was because during that great war, they were the ones who stood stedfast, never faltering, on the side of God. They were judged right there and then, and so they are the only ones in the flesh who do not have free will - they don't need it; they already made their decision for God. In Scripture, every time someone bowed down before an Angelic being who visited them, the angel would say "get up- I'm just like you - worship God"; well, these "saints" you pray to would say the same exact thing to you. Praise God, Pray to God. He is your Heavenly Father; talk to Him; stop leaving him out of what He wants from you - your love and direct communication with Him.
u don't need intervention just pray to Jesus Himself.
Muslims have a tendency to be confused on this issue too. They worship praying towards Mecca. In a mosque, they have a focal point called a mihrab. They prostrate themselves towards it, and pray. It is just as we do with Mary. It doesn't mean we worship Mary, just that we have her in her blessed position, with God.
I like to think this way, that if God were a microbe, you would use a microscope to better see him. We use Mary, she is our 'microscope'.
And Mary said, My soul doth magnify the Lord. -Luke 1:46.
Because every time you walk into a catholic church there is a big statue or picture of Mary, or what about "Hail Mary", I think that would be called worshiping.
The whole intervention thing. Silliness.
Not everyone believes that. I sure don't believe you guys worship Mary.
According to some religious organizations, Catholics praying to Mary as mediator between God and men is the same as worship. But if you walk around carrying a Statue of Mary, pray to her, and so on, it's pretty easy to see why some people say you do.
In my opinion, if you believe in Catholicism, you are within your right to do so.
I am not anti-Catholics. True that I have said many things regarding the historic past of the Catholic Church due to the destruction and persecution of Pagans and Christian manuscripts that the church didn't like at that time.
But that is another thing. I cannot judge how people worship their Gods. Nobody has the right to judge how others worship their Gods.
The people who believe that Catholics worship Mary are the same ones who think that God is different from Allah or Dios or Gott or Jehovah, and probably the same ones who think that Jesus and his companions spoke King James English.
It is the lack of understanding. Catholics also believe that Mary was without sin and that she ascended into heaven body and soul. There is no record of this in scripture at all. I don't believe in this, but at the same time, I know that Catholics do not worship Mary. Mary is seen as closer to God that we are, so Mary can possibly get a direct line in between that we can, supposedly.
I don't believe this because when Christ died, the division between God and humanity was slashed in two pieces. In one description of the death of Christ, you need to read, it says the cloth in the temple was torn in two. That cloth represented that a normal human being CANNOT approach God by themselves. They needed a priest to do it for them. That cloth ripping in half meant that I, a lowly person, can go up to Christ myself and pray to Him directly. That is the power of a forgiving God and the grace of God.
Rest assured, I do not think you worship Mary, at the same time, I think some Catholics are closed off to view Mary in any other regard outside of what the church has said they should. Have you ever thought about how to explain that Mary had other children in the Bible, yet the Catholic church says that she is still a virgin? Just a thought to ponder on.
Have a good day. Oh, and happy Lent.
Amanda
Paul Cyp is absolutely right. The poor Protestants have a mental block about Our Blessed Mother whom Jesus loves and honors and He is pleased with those who love and honor Her. They are a motherless people and if they despise this Gentle Woman be sure that Her Son will not be too pleased with them. They are convinced that Catholics worship Mary because of the great love and honor we give Her which does not amount to worship.Worship belongs to God alone.
Mary is called the Mediatrix of all Grace.Many theologians assert that Mary's mediation also means that from the time of her Assumption she has personally cooperated with her Divine Son in communicating all of the graces that He has and continues to bestow upon mankind. As St. Bernard of Clairvaux said in a famous formulation: "God has willed that we should have nothing that did not pass through the hands of Mary."
There is still another deeper stratum to the meaning of the Blessed Mother's mediation. According to Tradition, Our Lady possesses tremendous influence over her Divine Son. Therefore, some saints have described her as the treasurer or dispenser of grace. What they are saying is that God has entrusted His Mother to dispense and apportion the graces He gives to mankind. So that the Holy Virgin not only intercedes for us but, by the will of God, she has, so to speak, a say in distributing graces to her children. This assertion in no wise implies that Mary acts apart from Christ, let alone would contravene the will of God. Our Lady's mediation manifests the tenderness of her maternal heart.
If God has decided to shower His Mother with honor and power who are we to argue?
Because they do not understand the vital difference between prayer and worship.
They think prayer IS worship.
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